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88.IAP_Cto
22.02.2004, 19:07
Hello Pilots!

Does anybody know, what nominal power of a russian engine mean? I. e. an klimow vk-105pf2 has 1300HP nominal Power, does he had any WEP (war emergency power), if yes, how it was used?

there are also questions belong to asch-82, wk-107 and so on. if you have any informations please tell me.

thx cto

Bogun
22.02.2004, 22:07
Here is a little list I have compiled from different sources (sources shown on the bottom). German engines included for comparison.

I don't beleive VK-105PF-2 had spesial WEP regime, but I am not an expert, let's wait for them to showup.

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German Engines
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DB601A
1175 hp on take-off
1100 hp @ 2100m

DB601N
1215 hp on take-off
1120 hp @ 1500m
1085 hp @ 4000m

DB601E
1350 hp on take-off
1250 hp @ 2000m
1200 hp @ 5100m

DB605A/1
1475 hp on take-off
1250 hp @ altitude

DB605AM
1560 hp on take-off
1450 hp @ 2000m
1350 hp @ 6000m

BMW-801D
Weight - 1014kg
Take-off power - 1600hp (@2700rpm, @990mm.Hg.)
nominal power - 1460hp @ 700m (@2400rpm, @960mm.Hg.)
nominal power - 1300hp @ 4100m (@2400rpm, @960mm.Hg.)

DB603AM
Weight - 970kg
Take-off power - 1800hp (@2700rpm, @1090mm.Hg.)
nominal power - 1600hp @ 0m (@2500rpm, @955mm.Hg.)
altitude regime- 1510hp @ 5700m

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Russian Engines
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M-63
Weight - 515kg
Take-off power - 1100hp @ 0m (@2300rpm, @1065mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1000hp @ 1800m (@2200rpm, @915mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 900hp @ 4500m (@2200rpm, @915mm.Hg.)

ASh-62IP
Weight - 560kg
Take-off power - 1000hp @ 0m (@2200rpm, @1050mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1000hp @ 1500m (@2100rpm, @900mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 840hp @ ? m (@2200rpm, @915mm.Hg.)

AM-35A
Weight - 830kg
Take-off power - 1350hp @ 0m (@2050rpm, @1240mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1120hp @ 0m (@2050rpm, @1040mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1200hp @ 6000m

AM-38
Weight - 860kg
Take-off power - 1600hp @ 0m (@2150rpm, @1285mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1500hp @ 0m (@2050rpm, @1180mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1500hp @ 1650m

AM-38F
Weight - 880kg
Take-off power - 1700hp @ 0m (@2350rpm, @1360mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1500hp @ 0m (@2050rpm, @1200mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1500hp @ 750m

M-105PA
Weight - 570kg
Take-off power - 1100hp @ 0m (@2600rpm, @950mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1020hp @ 0m (@2600rpm, @910mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1100hp @ 2000m
Nominal power - 1050hp @ 4000m

M-105PF
Weight - 620kg
Take-off power - 1210hp @ 0m (@2600rpm, @1050mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1210hp @ 0m (@2700rpm, @1050mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1260hp @ 700m
Nominal power - 1180hp @ 2700m

VK-105PF2
Weight - 620kg
Nominal power - 1290hp @ 0m (@2700rpm, @1100mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1240hp @ 2000m (@2700rpm, @1100mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1180hp @ 2700m
Nominal power - 820hp @ 6500m
Nominal power - 710hp @ 7800m

VK-107A
Weight - 765kg
Take-off power - 1650hp @ 0m (@3200rpm, @1100mm.Hg.) combat regime 30 min.
Nominal power - 1500hp @ 0m (@3000rpm, @1060mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1550hp @ 1200m
Nominal power - 1450hp @ 3800m

M-82
Weight - 870kg
Take-off power - 1700hp @ 0m (@2500rpm, @1140mm.Hg.) forsage 10 min limit.
Nominal power - 1540hp @ 2050m (@2400rpm, @950mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1330hp @ 5400m (@2400rpm, @950mm.Hg.)

M-82F
Weight - 870kg
Take-off power - 1700hp @ 0m (@2500rpm, @1140mm.Hg.) nominal to 1600m.
Nominal power - 1540hp @ 2050m (@2400rpm, @950mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1330hp @ 5400m (@2400rpm, @950mm.Hg.)

ASh-82FN
Weight - 900kg
Take-off power - 1850hp @ 0m (@2500rpm, @1180mm.Hg.) forsage up to 2000m.
(TsAGI book states - 1200 mm.Hg., Pilot manual - up to 5 min)
Nominal power - 1630hp @ 1650m (@2400rpm, @1000mm.Hg.)
Nominal power - 1430hp @ 4650m (@2400rpm, @1000mm.Hg.)

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Sources:
"Aircraft Construction in the USSR"

A.T.Stepanets. "Yak Fighters in WWII"
[ISBN 5-217-01192-0]

Series of articles "Hart of a Fighter"
From Engine magazine
http://engine.aviaport.ru/main.html

Птиц
23.02.2004, 11:44
2 88.IAP_Cto

Frage, geniere sich nicht. Wir werden auf alle Fragen antworten :)

P.S. I Have forgotten that here only English language.... :)

88.IAP_Cto
23.02.2004, 14:55
deutsch ist auch sehr gut, wenn du willst? leider habe ich russich gelernt, aber es ist zu schlecht.

Foxbat (FOX)
23.02.2004, 21:10
Ich verstehe deutsch auch, aber schreiben sie in Englisch hier bitte!;)

Arthur =SF=TopAce
24.02.2004, 09:55
Гитлер капут :)

patriot[ru]
24.02.2004, 13:51
гыгы:):)You right,Arthur:):)

RB
24.02.2004, 19:51
Originally posted by Arthur =SF=TopAce
Гитлер капут :)

Read here my friend:
http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19732

Arthur =SF=TopAce
25.02.2004, 14:52
I've read at you link and can recommend YOU to read there. :)Seems to my it was clearly said that we can post only English here... But I can see a German right above my post...
May be you should recommend that link to the guys posting german here?: )

RB
25.02.2004, 22:26
Originally posted by Arthur =SF=TopAce
I've read at you link and can recommend YOU to read there. :)Seems to my it was clearly said that we can post only English here... But I can see a German right above my post...
May be you should recommend that link to the guys posting german here?: )

It's been recommended by Foxbat (FOX) here already: Ich verstehe deutsch auch, aber schreiben sie in Englisch hier bitte! :)

88.IAP_Cto
26.02.2004, 14:49
hello guys!

big thanx to bogun you helped a lot!

but i don't want to discuss about german or english or russian language, sorry...

let's write english like the admin says.

does anybody have even more information about russians engines in world war II? maybe original documents?

greetings to all cto:)

Птиц
26.02.2004, 15:12
Originally posted by 88.IAP_Cto
hello guys!

big thanx to bogun you helped a lot!

but i don't want to discuss about german or english or russian language, sorry...

let's write english like the admin says.

does anybody have even more information about russians engines in world war II? maybe original documents?

greetings to all cto:) http://www.airwar.ru/enginep.html

RussAn-2
12.03.2004, 22:42
Originally posted by 88.IAP_Cto


Does anybody know, what nominal power of a russian engine mean?

as a rule, nominal power of any piston engine is a power which
may be used for long-timed climb, some aircraft with small take-off weight (for example without cargo), equipped with
the piston engine can normally take off using nominal power. This characteristic is important as well as WEP.