Originally posted by Biotech
Но каким же бревном должен быть Р-51, что на высоте для борьбы с ним использовалась Дора? В именно дуэльной ситуации, ибо сильно вряд-ли у немцев было изначальное преимущество в высоте и внезапности при атаке летающих крепостей, которые шли отнюдь не на бреющем.
Я боюсь что если бы немцы пытались атаковать без преимущества в высоте и внезапности - никто бы их к бомбардировщикам и близко не продпустил.

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The Germans liked to roar through the bombers head-on, firing long bursts, and then roll and go down. They would circle around to get ahead of the bomber stream, groping for altitude, avoiding the escorts if possible, then reassemble and come through head-on again. When their fuel or ammunition was exhausted, they would land and refuel and take off again, flying mission after mission, for as long as there were bombers to shoot at. They seldom came after us. Normally, they would skirmish the escorts only out of necessity. We were an inconvenience, best avoided. It was the bombers they wanted, and the German pilots threw themselves at them smartly and bravely. It was our job to stop them.

It seemed we were always outnumbered. We had more fighters than they did, but what mattered was how many they could put up in one area. They would concentrate in huge numbers, by the hundreds at times. They would assemble way up ahead, pick a section of the bomber formation, and then come in head-on, their guns blazing, sometimes biting the bombers below us before we knew what was happening.


Мне кажеться последняя фраза явно намекает на определенную внезапность...


Over the radio: "Here they come!"

They'd worked over the bombers up ahead and now it was our turn.

Things happen quickly. We get rid of our drop tanks, slam the power up, and make a sweeping left turn to engage. My flight of four Mustangs is on the outside of the turn, a wingman close behind to my left, my element leader and his wingman behind to my right, all in finger formation. Open your right hand, tuck the thumb under, put the fingers together, and check the fingernails. That's how we flew, and fought. Two shooters, and two men to cover their tails. The Luftwaffe flew that way, too. German ace Werner Molders is generally credited with inventing the tactic during the Spanish Civil War.


Being on the outside of the turn, we are vulnerable to attack from the rear. I look over my right shoulder and, sure enough, I see four dots above us, way back, no threat at the moment, but coming hard down the chute. I start to call out, but . . .

"Four bogeys, five o'clock high!" My element leader, Eddie Simpson, has already seen them. Bogeys are unknowns and bandits are hostile. Quickly, the dots close and take shape. They're hostile, all right. They're Messerschmitts.


А здесь уже Мустанги атакованы 109-ми находящими выше их.

Это Bud Anderson

Originally posted by Biotech

Если я правильно понимаю тактику, то Доры должны были связывать Мустанги в то время как более вооруженные истребители атаковали бомбардировщики.
Что-то я такого не припоминаю. Первоначально предпоалагалось что 109-е будут связывать боем истребители сопровождения, а 190A будут атаковать бомбардировщики, но причиной тому была малая высотность BMW-801 и соответственно недостаточные ЛТХ FW-190A для боя с истребителями. К 44 году немцы уже убедились что данная тактика никаких преимуществ не имеет.