На Аляске пропал F-22

[harinalex]

сегодня еще канадский CF-18 разбился при заходе на посадку на AFB Cold Lake .
Пилота через полтора часа нашли.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/...et-crash.html?

[Pilot]

видео репортаж выложили
http://www.jber.af.mil/news/video/in...d=92&sid=17112

[flateric]

F-22 pilot who has been missing for days after plane crash in Alaska identified as Capt. Jeff Haney, formerly of Jackson County

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Published: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 1:19 PM Updated: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 1:59 PM
Danielle Salisbury | Jackson Citizen Patriot

The missing pilot of an Air Force F-22 fighter jet that crashed this week in a remote area of interior Alaska is Air Force Capt. Jeff A. Haney, whose parents live in Jackson County, the man Haney calls his stepdad confirmed today.
Mike Viane, who has lived with Haney's mother for more than 20 years, said Haney's mother, Linda, and father are now on a plane to Alaska, where they will join Haney's wife, Anna, and the couple's two young daughters.
The two left this morning and are to arrive before midnight tonight, he said from he and Linda Haney's home on Gillette Road west of Brooklyn.
Haney, 31, has been in the Air Force for about five years, Viane said. He graduated from Columbia Central High School in 1996 and went to flight school at Western Michigan University.
He did his first pilot training at the Jackson County Airport, Viane said.
Haney was one of the Air Force's best piolts, Viane said. "Top of the class, as they say."
He was supposed to eventually be an F-22 fighter jet instructor, Viane said.
Haney was stationed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage. His wife and children lived off the base, Viane said.
Haney's Air Force F-22 Raptor went missing Tuesday night during a training mission from Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson. The fighter jet’s wreckage was discovered Wednesday.

The jet was on a nighttime training mission and lost contact with air traffic control at 7:40 p.m. local time Tuesday, according to a statement by the base. The F-22 was flying with another plane, which also lost contact with it, according to the Air National Guard.

The missing F-22 is assigned to Elmendorf’s 3rd Wing.

“Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of this missing Airman, and we thank all Alaskans for their continued support and prayers during this trying time,” said Col. Jack McMullen, 3rd Wing commander, in a written statement. “Finding the missing pilot is our top priority.”
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[~Silvist~]

Эх, жаль хлопца. Две дочки остались. Я думаю на базе уже знают что он не выжил. Просто родственников не хотят травмировать сразу. Это как с нашим "Курском". Ведь в первый же день знали что там живых нет, а врали...

[flateric]

На месте падения в горной седловине - кратер, уже заполнившийся наполовину водой. Они даже не могут сказать, пилот был в самолете в момент падения или нет. Труднодоступный район, сейчас туда пошла наземная техника. Судя по последним высказываниям официалов, надежды практически нет.

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Anchorage Daily News
18 November 2010

Crash area searched for missing F-22 pilot

By CASEY GROVE

(11/18/10 14:41:50)
Dozens of Army and Air Force personnel and vehicles were heading into the Alaska wilderness 100 miles north of Anchorage today to search for the missing pilot from an F-22 Raptor that crashed Tuesday night.

The stealth fighter jet vanished from radar and lost contact with its wingman at about 7:40 p.m. Tuesday. After spotting wreckage Wednesday morning, pararescuemen with the Alaska Air National Guard landed at the crash site.

There was no indication whether the pilot ejected, a military spokesman said. Searchers found no sign of the pilot at the crash site.

"They said it looked like a crater," said Maj. Guy Hayes with the Guard's Rescue Coordination Center. "There was a stream nearby that was creating a lot of water in the crash site."

The pilot was identified as Capt. Jeffrey Haney by the Jackson Citizen Patriot, his mother's hometown newspaper in Michigan. The Air Force would not name the pilot until they found him, spokesmen said. Haney has a wife and two daughters, according to the Citizen Patriot. A records search shows the family lives in Eagle River.

After spending Tuesday night scanning the mountainous area southeast of Cantwell, searchers resumed Wednesday and spotted what looked like the crash site south of the Denali Highway. The crater is in a drainage between two mountains and had partially filled with water, Hayes said.

First they had to get the right gear for hazardous materials from the crashed plane, Hayes said. It's normal to expect fuel and other hazardous material at a plane crash, he said. The searchers were on the ground at the site from 1 or 2 p.m. until dark, Hayes said.

Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson spokesman John Pennell said the plane was not carrying explosives but did have flares and chaff onboard, as well as training rounds.

Air Force, Army and Rescue Coordination Center personnel are helping with the "huge logistical operation" of a ground search for the pilot, Pennell said. The state Department of Transportation is plowing a road in the area -- likely the Denali Highway, which is not maintained during the winter -- to help get equipment to the area as the search moves into a more long-term phase, Pennell said. A convoy of Army and Air Force vehicles was on its way to the area, he said.

The search teams would use helicopters, small tracked vehicles and four-wheel-drive sport utility vehicles to shuttle searchers into the wilderness from a base camp they were setting up Thursday afternoon off of the Denali Highway, a 134-mile mostly gravel road that runs east from near the entrance to Denali National Park and Preserve to Paxson on the Richardson Highway. Wrecker vehicles, forklifts and a bus loaded with people were also en route, Pennell said.

"You're talking hundreds of moving parts, including people. Getting the right people with the right equipment to the right place at the right time," Pennell said. "The logistics are really pretty staggering. You know what Alaska's like. The area's remote, it's rugged, and it's pretty inaccessible."

Alaska Air National Guard helicopters and a four-engine plane continued to search for signs of a fire or the pilot's parachute, Maj. Hayes said.

"We just don't know at all whether or not he ejected or if he's still with the aircraft, so that's why we continue to do the search operations until we find that answer," Hayes said. "We're going to proceed in thinking he's alive until we have a strong reason to believe he might not be."

Temperatures dipped below zero both Tuesday and Wednesday nights, according to the National Weather Service. The pilot would have had survival gear and expert training, said Col. Jack McMullen, commander of the Air Force's 3rd Wing. McMullen and much of the local Air Force community were holding out hope that the pilot would be found alive, he said.

"We have to assume that he's still alive until we find conclusively otherwise," Pennell said. "We're not going to give up on him. As long as there's hope, we're going to continue looking."

There has been an outpouring of support for the pilot's family, Pennell said.

"In a situation like this, the military family pulls together, so they are fully ensconced in support right now," he said.

[Seal]

сегодня еще канадский CF-18 разбился при заходе на посадку на AFB Cold Lake .
Пилота через полтора часа нашли.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/...et-crash.html?

Во как! А по ящику тут тишина, ничего в вечерних новостях не передали. Может утром будет.

По теме: жалко всётаки мужика не думаю, что он всё ещё жив. Но мало ли вдруг мужик везучий и ещё спасут.

[StSgt]

After spending Tuesday night scanning the mountainous area southeast of Cantwell, searchers resumed Wednesday and spotted what looked like the crash site south of the Denali Highway. The crater is in a drainage between two mountains and had partially filled with water, Hayes said.

опять ничего конкретного: нашли то, что похоже на место катастрофы.. частично заполненная водой котловина..
..походу им там аквалангисты нужны будут, х.з.

[Evgeny_B]

мне интересно, у них при выходе кресла маячок должен срабатывать или как?

[flateric]

http://www.jber.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123231571

масштабы поисковой операции впечатляют

http://www.lifesupportintl.com/produ...-3481-122.html

In the ACES and Martin-Baker ejection seat scenerios, the SLB-2000-100 is packed in the survival kie in the seat pan. When a pilot ejects at altitude, the pilot remains in the seat until his altitude drops below 10,000 feet. At this time the seat separates, the parachute is deployed, and the survival pack drops below the pilot. When the lide separates from the seat pan, the SLB-2000-100 is automatically activated.

[R9pik]

интересно в каком обмундировании летают пилоты 22-х на Аляске?

Вряд ли им специально ради такого случая униформу для холодной погоды выдают.

[boyan]

Помимо кресла радиомаяк должен быть еще на бортовом регистраторе (оранжевом ящике)

[flateric]

Помимо кресла радиомаяк должен быть еще на бортовом регистраторе (оранжевом ящике)

это да. просто есть надежда того, что эти два маяка находятся сейчас на некотором расстоянии друг от друга...

аварийный комплект
http://www.lifesupportintl.com/produ...r-2421-77.html
http://www.lifesupportintl.com/produ...e-1596-77.html

[flateric]

Подтвердили гибель

[Marcus_Lind]

R.I.P....

[Evgeny_B]

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не катапультировался?

[flateric]

нет www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123231773

[RomanSR]

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[~Silvist~]

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[VolkVoland]

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[vas12005]

R.I.P.

не катапультировался?

Кстати, кому положено у них, пора задуматься над улучшением системы покидания. На 3 летных аварии - 2 пилота R.I.P..

[Pilot]

четыре. Два живы, два погибли. Возможно на Аляске они работали на малых высотах, поэтому не успел

Air Force officials here announced today that search and rescue teams have found conclusive evidence the pilot of the F-22 Raptor missing since Tuesday night did not survive the crash.
Air Force Capt. Jeffrey Haney, assigned to the 525th Fighter Squadron, 3rd Wing, has been missing since the crash, however, a thorough search and rescue operation continued until today.

Haney, from Clarklake, Mich., was commissioned in the U.S. Air Force in August 2003 and has been stationed here since June 2006.

[K@T]

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[Kola]

Вряд ли им специально ради такого случая униформу для холодной погоды выдают.

наши пилоты Миг-31 на камчатке например летают чуть ли не в аквалангах. В США наверное еще строже

[Evgeny_B]

глядя на фото места падения, у меня создалось ощущение, что Ф-22 достаточно отвесно вошел землю
ИМХО потеря пространственной ориентировки у пилота.

[Seal]

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