Проект "Рыцари Неба"

[LeonT]

"Благородные рыцари" смогут увидеть что соперник безоружен

Ага, рыцари...
"...В апреле Гарро сбивает три самолёта противника непонятным для немцев способом. Стрельба через винт считалась невозможной, и поэтому самолёта, на котором небыло видно никакого вооружения, не опасались" (С)

[ROSS_DiFiS]

о народ ненасытен. две поста на этой неделе - и мало

[-LT-]

о народ ненасытен. две поста на этой неделе - и мало

Народ требует большего, иж картинки..... сначало видео побаловали терь картинками не отмажуться

[А-спид]

Знающие француский есть?

Как правильно писать и говорить по-русски - Ньюпор или Ньюпорт? Там разве т не проглатывается?

[Fruckt]

Знающие француский есть?

Как правильно писать и говорить по-русски - Ньюпор или Ньюпорт? Там разве т не проглатывается?

Наверное правильно: "Ньюпор", по карйне мере во всех всех источниках на русском языке пишут именно так. Каюсь в своём предыдущем посте написал "Ньюпорт"

[ROSS_DiFiS]

а кто знает шо такое на снимке?

[ROSS_Gorillaz]

а кто знает шо такое на снимке?

Аммм... стрелочка указывает на нечто похожее на бетонный аэродром ...
А вот посередине боюсь гадать предположений масса...

[ROSS_Pups]

а кто знает шо такое на снимке?

предположение.
Высота 1,5-2 км.
В центре летное поле. (белое Т образно хз что, может отметка на готовом снимке.
Стрелкой указан предположительно завод по производству самолетов или штаб с казармой. Скорее первое ибо через-чур большое поле.
Над одним из зданий виден аэростат (справа по линии снимка, ниже середины), что сокрее указывает на стратегическое назначение всего комплекса.

Врядли полевой аэродром будет защищен аэростатом.


пока так

[ROSS_DiFiS]

а может большое и белое это завод по производству бомбардировщиков?

фото-то отсюда http://www.forumeerstewereldoorlog.n...pic.php?t=8058

[ROSS_Pups]

УРА!!! а мне приз будет?

[RB]

В последнем журнале AOPA (Airplane owners and pilot association) Статья про мужика который в Денвере построил реплики основных самолетов WWI.
Строил он их по оригинальным чертежам и методом включая двигатели Циклон и другие.

Так вот статья рассказывает о впечатлениях пилота которому удалось полетать на большинстве из них среди прочего Focker Dr.1 , Sopwitch Camel, Newport 28 и д.р. Пилот пишет то из-за сильного "adverse yaw" на каждом аэроплане для того что бы повернуть надо сначала давить педаль, а потом уже помогать РУСом (в обратной последовательности самолет сильно бросает в противоположную сторону крена). Так же упоминается приемы управления двигателем на посадке и рулении .
На счет последнего довольно интересно, пилот рулил без каких либо проблем отдавая РУС пологостью от себя, "газуя" двигателем и нажимая педали...

Вообшем статья довольно интересная некоторые мифы рассеиваются а некоторые подтверждаются . Тем более интересно что в роли тестера выступает современный пилот который сравнивает самолеты сегодня и тогда .

P.S. Петрович если надо я могу сканернуть

[An.Petrovich]

P.S. Петрович если надо я могу сканернуть

Да, конечно надо, большое спасибо!
А если с переводом то было бы вообще супер.

P.S. Я сейчас как раз финализирую характеристики устойчивости, управляемости и прочие ТТХ для первых четырёх самолётов, которые войдут в релиз в качестве доступных к управлению игроком. Очень много вопросов. Если по основным ЛТХ (как то: максимальные скорости в ГП на различных высотах, время набора высоты, RPM) ещё можно найти какие-то данные в сохранившихся отчётах по испытаниям 17-18 гг., то по особенностям управления и "характеру" аэропланов приходится пользоваться именно словесными описаниями пилотов, в которых кроме как "пикировал быстрее ветра" или "висел на винте" других эпитетов (читай - цифр) не найти. Поэтому, если есть такие описания - чем больше у меня будет собрано подобных эпитетов по каждому ЛА, тем более складная и гармоничная будет картина, и тем более похожи будут наши ероропланы на аеропланы всамделишные. Так что, любая помощь всех сочувствующих в этом вопросе приветствуется.

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ТТХ для первых четырёх самолётов, которые войдут в релиз в качестве доступных к управлению игроком.

Я че-то не понял, или понял правильно ? Будет все таки 4 летаба, а не 2?

З.Ы. А видео реально алкан снимал Судя по тому как он осматривался, его мучил вопрос - кто я!? где я!? Ребят, у вас столько вкусностей, а вот такие горе репортеры всё портят. Надо больше роликов в стиле "артиллерия", вот это реально прорубает

[Druzyaka]

Я че-то не понял, или понял правильно ? Будет все таки 4 летаба, а не 2?

Как я понял 2 летаба при покупке сима, остальные 2 за деньги по желанию.

[An.Petrovich]

Как я понял 2 летаба при покупке сима, остальные 2 за деньги по желанию.

Точно так.

[RB]

Да, конечно надо, большое спасибо!
А если с переводом то было бы вообще супер.

Вот !


Those magnificent flying machines
A remarkable collection of flyable aircraft from the Great War By Barry Schiff

The assassination on June 28, 1914, of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, triggered a series of events that led inexorably to the outbreak of war in Europe a month later. The Great War began less than 11 years after the Wright brothers’ first flight. The “aeroplane” was an infant, and only a relative handful had been produced.

During the war years, 1914 to 1918, aircraft development and production exploded. More than 150,000 warplanes were manufactured (mostly by France, Germany, and England). Unfortunately, only a handful of these handmade aircraft survived the ravages of war and time. Flyable examples are extremely rare.

Javier Arango, an investment consultant and avid pilot in Los Angeles, had majored at Harvard in the history of science. His academic curiosity led him to realize that our knowledge of aircraft from the Great War is limited. The best way to appreciate them, he concluded, was to obtain and fly a discriminating selection of these unique aircraft.

This daunting undertaking began with the construction of a Fokker Dr.I Triplane in 1980 and was the beginning of his Aeroplane Collection. Arango has been using this and subsequent types to study aviation progress made during “the war to end all wars.”

Arango says that he focuses on the differences between the three most successful lines of aircraft produced by the aviation war powers. He explains, for example, that, “Anthony Fokker was a radical innovator and created a new design every few weeks during the war.” (The Mercedes-powered Fokker D.VII is regarded as Fokker’s best fighter.)

“The British designer, T.O.M. ‘Tommy’ Sopwith,” he says, “demonstrated a minimalist philosophy toward aircraft design by maximizing the performance of seemingly ordinary airplanes.

“The French firm of Nieuport,” he adds, “innovated gradually and carefully. You can hardly tell the difference between one model and the next.” The Nieuport 17 was the most famous and popular of the series.

“Our present goal,” Arango says, “is for the collection to obtain enough of the Fokker, Nieuport, and Sopwith models to complete a valid study of their evolution. The collection might obtain more of other makes of warplanes as well.”

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Most of the aircraft in the Aeroplane Collection were built or restored by Chuck Wentworth and his artisans at Antique Aero in Paso Robles, California. They are painstakingly crafted from original drawings, photographs, and other references.

Airplanes of the Great War were originally built to last only a few weeks because they were not expected to survive accidents and combat much longer than that. The collection’s airplanes, however, are built to last longer. This is why some modern materials are used. These include non-flammable paint and stronger metals. Otherwise, original construction methods and techniques are employed.


Despite our sometimes-romantic view of aviation, we need to consider that these machines were designed to kill (although their purpose early in the war was to observe enemy ground activity). Arango regards the aircraft as a collection of “lethal, technological artifacts.”

“Our greatest challenge,” he adds, “is finding and restoring engines. Many parts are impossible to find and must be made from scratch. Also, each engine was completely handmade and common parts between them are not interchangeable.”

The most popular powerplant was the rotary engine. It was simple, strong, and light. The engine rotates about a fixed crankshaft attached firmly to the airplane. Conversely, conventional engines are stationary and have rotating crankshafts.

Engine rotation cools the cylinders, which eliminates the need for the complex and heavy liquid cooling systems of that era. A further advantage was that combat pilots did not have to wait for coolant or oil temperatures to warm before takeoff.

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Rotary engines burn conventional fuel but use castor oil for lubrication. A conventional oil system cannot be used in a spinning engine, so lubrication involves a “total-loss oil system.” Oil flows into the engine, mixes with fuel and air, burns in the cylinders, and exits through the exhaust valves. In other words, oil passes through the engine and is lost forever. An 80-horsepower Le Rhône rotary, for example, loses six quarts of castor oil per hour. Nor can a spinning engine have an exhaust system to duct exhaust away from the cockpit. Consequently, pilots inhale fumes of burnt castor oil.

The pilot not only had to fly the airplane and engage in deadly combat, but when flying behind a Le Rhône rotary, he had to simultaneously and manually operate the crude carburetor. Using independent fuel and air levers, the pilot creates his own fuel-air mixture to obtain the desired power.

When applying takeoff power, he moves both levers forward and then fine-tunes the fuel lever until sensing a smooth-running engine delivering maximum power. Lesser power settings require the adroit adjustment of both levers. If the pilot inadvertently floods the engine, it can take 30 seconds to restore power, an eternity in combat and a catastrophe at low altitude after takeoff. Power loss because of excess leaning is immediately recoverable. Power also is controlled with a blip switch on the control stick that turns the ignition on and off. When operating a 100-horsepower Gnome rotary, a pilot has only a blip switch to control power. The engine is either on or off. The more powerful 160-horsepower Gnome, however, also has an ignition selector switch. It is used to selectively interrupt ignition to a given number of cylinders per rotation cycle.

Rotary engines turn large propellers slowly presumably because excessive rpm could cause cylinders to fly off. The 80-horsepower Le Rhône, for example, is limited to about 1,200 rpm, while the 160-horsepower Gnome is limited to about 1,400. Gnome engines in particular are extremely noisy primarily because the exhaust valves open prematurely and release the burning charge before it has been consumed. Because aircraft with these engines were so slow and noisy, they were unsuitable for surprise ground attacks. Many do not have windshields, and a pilot is exposed to a wind that swirls and seems to come from all directions. On cold days, he hunches down in the cockpit for protection from the elements.

Entering and recovering from turns often requires leading with rudder, and the ailerons produce adverse yaw.

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During my flight in a Sopwith 1-1/2 Strutter, which has a 160-horsepower Gnome rotary, I tried to maneuver the airplane in a way that would make noticeable the precession caused by the spinning mass of a rotary engine, but it was not detectable. Tales about having to overcome large forces created by gyroscopic precession seem to be exaggerated, although torque and P-factor are noticeable.

Aircraft built in 1914 had a narrow, 20- to 30-mph speed range separating stall and cruising speeds. These increased during the war to 60 mph, similar to the stall-cruise difference of a Cessna 150.

Many have a relatively aft center of gravity. This helps to prevent nose-over during landing and increases maneuverability. An aft center of gravity also allows use of small tail surfaces that reduce weight and drag, but this can result in a loss of pitch and yaw stability. The good news is that there is no need to trim for airspeed changes (especially since most of these aircraft do not have trim tabs). The bad news is that the pilot cannot feel rudder movement, especially in most Fokkers and early Nieuports that have only small, balanced rudders and no vertical stabilizers.

Sopwith intentionally made the Camel unstable to maximize performance. Although this made it more difficult to fly, it could outmaneuver its adversaries. One of the collection’s two Camels is the world’s only Sopwith-built Camel in airworthy condition.

Control harmony was non-existent. Two hands often had to be used to induce even a slow roll rate; the rudder had little or no feel; and many were so tail-heavy that the pilot had to apply constant forward pressure on the control stick. Hands-off flying was out of the question. Flying was a tiring and constant struggle to make the airplane go where the pilot wanted it to go.

The Fokker Triplane was the most recognizable airplane of the war and was made famous by Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Baron. The first operational triplane during World War I, however, was built by Sopwith, not Fokker. Turn entry and recovery in a Fokker triplane begins by leading with and holding rudder, and then applying opposite aileron to prevent overbanking (a skidding turn). The wings of most of these aircraft have sharp leading edges that reportedly lead without warning to abrupt and interesting stalls and wing dropping.

Arango says that the Fokker E.III Eindecker is the most difficult to fly. It has an all-flying tail (no stabilizers); warped wings for roll control (like the Wright Flyer), and no way to vary power other than a blip switch. Easiest to fly, he says, is the Sopwith Tabloid.

My flight in a Sopwith 1-1/2 Strutter consisted of tracing rectangles around Arango’s 2,200-foot, pristine grass strip in the heart of central California’s wine country. These aircraft are so valuable, and their engines so inherently unreliable, that it is risky to fly beyond gliding distance of the airport. Arango occasionally flies them to nearby Paso Robles Airport, where Antique Aero is located.

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None of these aircraft have tailwheels or brakes. The tailskid digging into sod slows the airplane after landing and helps to keep it moving straight ahead. Taxiing turns are made by moving the stick forward to take some weight off the skid, applying full rudder in the direction of desired turn, and then adding a blast of power to make the turn.

Many rotary engines have only a single magneto, and there is no need to check it before takeoff. Either the engine is running smoothly or it is not.

A pulsateur (pulsator) is a small glass vessel on the instrument panel that can be used to observe a pulsation of oil about once every 10 seconds to verify oil pump operation. This can be difficult to see, and it is easier to confirm that the engine is getting enough oil by observing the trail of white smoke, smelling the aroma of burnt castor oil, and watching the airframe being incessantly coated with fresh, black oil. At the end of a flight, the fuselage and inboard wing panels are bathed in oil.

A pilot’s white scarf had two purposes, to wipe oil from his goggles and to prevent chafing his skin while “rubbernecking” for the enemy.

When I flared for a three-point landing, drag increased rapidly and dramatically. It was like a cosmic hand pushing against the machine. That is when you need to be touching down. Thankfully, we were. None of these aircraft have flaps.

The engine is set to some intermediate power setting prior to landing and left that way for the approach. This avoids the complexity of varying power during the approach. Instead, power is turned on and off with the blip switch, as needed. Remember, though, to release the switch after landing and before the engine comes to a stop lest you become stranded and powerless on the runway.

Early pilots of the Great War generally were well heeled, aristocratic, or had connections. They purchased their own uniforms (some from Harrods in London), helmets, goggles, flying boots, and so forth, which is why their uniforms lacked uniformity.

In the beginning, training was minimal or nonexistent. It began with some ground school. Flight instructors often knew little more than their students. A pilot’s first solo often was his first flight in an airplane.

Two-place trainers came later in the war. One of the first training devices was a penguin, a version of the famous Blériot but with wings too short to fly. It was used to practice taxiing and to simulate takeoff and landing rolls. When dual instruction in two-place trainers became available, it typically was limited to a few hours. After soloing, pilots were left to learn on their own, although training became more thorough as the war wore on.

Learning to fly was extremely dangerous. Pilots were more likely to be killed during training or in accidents than in battle. Surviving training was considered proof of one’s flying skill.

The longevity of combat pilots was usually measured in weeks or months. Those surviving a year often became gaunt and worn-out. They had the shakes, were terrorized, smoked heavily, and drank themselves to sleep. Most were fatalistic and expected to be killed “in glory and for a great cause.” Depression and illness were common, and young men aged years in a few months of combat.

The pilots, though, were “knights of the air,” courageous fighters, and heralded for occasional acts of great chivalry. A well-known example involved French pilot Georges Guynemer and his German counterpart, Ernst Udet. During a dogfight between them in May 1917, Guynemer noticed that Udet’s gun had jammed. He saluted his adversary and flew off.

There was no instrument flying, and a pilot who entered cloudiness prayed that there was enough altitude beneath to recover from the inevitable spin. Unfortunately, most pilots did not know how to recover from a spin until late in the war. Those who did know how to spin used the maneuver to escape an attacker or feign incapacitation.

Although most pilots died in accidents, combat offered its own hazards (other than being shot down, of course). Many aircraft of the Great War did not have airspeed indicators, and pilots simply flew as fast as they dared. Flying too fast, though, caused fabric to rip off the wings or the airplane to fail structurally and tear itself apart, as happened to many American pilots flying Nieuport 28s. Pulling too many Gs during a dogfight caused the airplane to break and the pilot to die.

Most aircraft did not have heaters, and pilots could become so frigid and frostbitten that they were unwilling to stick their heads out of the cockpit and turn to see if an enemy might be approaching from behind. Aircraft fabric was highly flammable, and fire was a pilot’s greatest fear. The oil-soaked fuselage could become a flying Molotov cocktail. Some pilots shot themselves with a revolver in preference to burning to death or jumping (they did not have parachutes; the Germans had parachutes in the last six months of the war).

The Aeroplane Collection has 21 airplanes. All are flyable except for the Fokker Spinne, and Arango flies them all. This is one of the world’s largest collections of aircraft from the Great War and probably is the largest collection of flyable aircraft. Currently under construction is a Sopwith Snipe. All designs in the collection will be more than 100 years old in less than 10 years.

[VadNik]

Вот !

это можно было и там прочитать, смысл тут это выкладывать? ладноб перевод.

[IDS]

Я сейчас как раз финализирую характеристики устойчивости, управляемости и прочие ТТХ для первых четырёх самолётов, которые войдут в релиз в качестве доступных к управлению игроком.

Что то новенькое, или я кое что пропустил?

[Fruckt]

Что то новенькое, или я кое что пропустил?

Всё по старенькому - два летаба в релизе, и два можно будет купить

[Achtungbambr]

to ROSS_DiFiS

Если мне не изменяет память, в тех. требованиям к самолётом того времени был пунктик о том, что -самолёт должен иметь возможность взлёта и посадки на вспаханное поле(но не свеже-вспаханное).

К 1918году почти исчезли задержки в стрельбе вызванные перекосом патронов. и неисправностями пулемётов. Довели до ума одним словом.

Каждая пуля не критична =)

А в остальном... пожалуй =)

[Achtungbambr]

Жалко самолётик, зато ДМ показанна наглядно =))

[ROSS_DiFiS]

http://community.livejournal.com/wor...tml?style=mine
рекомендую ознакомиться

[Teeth]

http://www.simhq.com/_air12/air_400a.html
свежий обзор, учим албанский
кто любит кино то качать http://www.simhq.tv/downloads/_air_c...t_Dogfight.zip

[-LT-]

http://www.simhq.com/_air12/air_400a.html
свежий обзор, учим албанский
кто любит кино то качать http://www.simhq.tv/downloads/_air_c...t_Dogfight.zip

Глянул в хорошек качестве, супер
Могу ошибаться но судя по ролику в кабине не вирпил сидел, хотя может и обзор не привычный, в общем ролик полюбому понравился

[Avenger]

Глянул в хорошек качестве, супер
Могу ошибаться но судя по ролику в кабине не вирпил сидел, хотя может и обзор не привычный, в общем ролик полюбому понравился

Да блин тама такой вирпила - тракторист - играл он похоже клавой - осматривался мышкой, а судя по длине очередей в небо - он вообще не видел куды стрелять... он там хоть 1 раз попал? =) я просто так и не понял.

ЗЫ. По моему с отражением солнца от всего чего выпирает - перебор. ИМХО

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Ты ерородром видел на этой фоте?..

Особливо на третьей фоте аэродром понравился, для самолетов амфибий с вертикальным взлетом самое то