RoyalFlush!


я вспомнил несколько источников в интернете, из которых, помимо всего прочего, появляются бустерные махалеты.

использование дайвфлепс для выигрывания угла.
скорее, всего Вы это читали.

"The P-38J25-LO and P-38L's were terrific. Roll Rate? Ha! Nothing would roll faster. The dive recovery flaps ameliorated the "compressibility" (Mach limitation) of earlier Lightnings. An added benefit of the dive recovery flaps was their ability to pitch the nose 10-20 degrees "up" momentarily when trying to out turn the Luftwaffe's best, even when using the flap combat position on the selector. Of course the nose "pitch-up" resulted in increased aerodynamic drag, and must be used cautiously. High speed is generally preferred over low speed in combat situations. Properly flown, the Fowler flaps of the P-38 allowed very tight turning radius."

то, что можно было не юзать закрылки, а только щитки - оставим пока на моей совести. в качестве бреда.

вот еще линк

"WBL: Did you ever fly a P-38 with the dive recovery (compressibility) flaps (on late J's and all L's)? (If so, please comment on how they were used generally and in combat situations. How did they affect normal flight?

GG: Yes. We were approaching the speed of sound in a dive from high altitudes, and unless the pilot cut the power and started pulling out in time, the nose would start to tuck under, causing a loss of control. I later learned (from Lockheed's Chief Test Pilot) that many P-38 pilots lost their lives that way, mostly in training accidents. With the "L" model, Lockheed installed dive flaps under the wing tips to help us recover from those steep dives. What a wonderful invention. The dive flaps also made it possible for us to make a square turn in our P-38's."

вопрос - мог летчик лайтнинга (моделей, начиная с J25) использовать щитки для ведения боя на виражах?


далее - все радости (ну, почти все, автоматического радиатора нет и кое-чего другого) модели L на моделях J15.

во-первых - сбитый мальками транспортник.

"The complaints were relayed to the Lockheed factory, and design changes were incorporated in the P-38L. Prior to the arrival of the "L's" at Wormingford, many modification kits were shipped to Langford Lodge, North Ireland, for field modifications of the "J" model Lightning then arriving in the theater. Unfortunately, an early shipment aboard a DC-4 was lost at sea when the Brits shot the cargo plane from the sky. It took several months to replace the lost modification kits. Early P-38J-5-LO's were modified at Langford Lodge by the addition of the replacement kits. The kits added dive recovery flaps under the wings, outboard of the engines, and a 3000psi hydraulically boosted aileron system. The P-38L's were now coming down the production line with the aileron boost and "speed boards" installed."


с английским у меня не очень, но, подозреваю, что на J5 (если там не опечатка - J15) киты ставились после того, как самолет был сбит рафовцами, но не ясно были ли уже на твд J25.

и там же, но ближе к концу страницы -

"These were hydraulically boosted ailerons which decreased control forces by a factor of six, and electrically actuated dive flaps under the wings which cured the dive compressibility problems. The latter were fitted standard from the P-38J-25-LO, sadly almost all retrofit kits intended for earlier P-38J subtypes were lost in a friendly fire incident in early 1944, thereby delaying the introduction of this important modification to theatre units by several months. Curiously, the modification entered production as a kit in late 1943, yet was not incorporated into production aircraft for another six months, until the P-38J-25-LO, although some P-38J-10/15-LO aircraft were retrofitted in the field."

вопрос. на какой скорости производили лайтнинги штурмовку нашей колонны, как Вы думаете? 300 миль\час? 250 м\ч?
на какой скорости 07.11.44 вообще мог происходить бой?

вопрос. существовало ли ограничение у самолетов лайтнинг моделей G, H, J, L по использованию закрылков в боевом положении?

вопрос. представьте, что 07.11.44 в штурмовке и прикрытии учавствовали P38H. бустеров нет, щитков нет. есть только боевое положение закрылков. как Вы думаете, написали бы наши в отчете, что лайтнинги имеют превосходство на вираже над як9?

про чувствительность управления (при включенных бустерах) на малых скоростях тоже пока не помню где читал, поэтому - оставим в порядке моего бреда.